I have been noticing a lot of people talking about loot and how a lot of it has lost value and become "shopfood". There are a bunch of helmets and other items that really have no decent stats on them and are basically useless you want some 90 armor rating thing.
I think there needs to be a big upgrade to the loot tables and maybe added stats/rare colors to the items that are already there with tweaked drop rates to make them valid again.
Here is a list of JUST some of the items off the top of my head that are currently usesless or have lost a ton of value.
Sauran Helm
Helm Of noursihmet
Raptor Helm
Viking helm
Courtiers Hat
Uplanders helm
Wizard hat
Cloth hood
Village idiots hat
Bracers of Defense
Greaves of Denstiy
Plate of Invul
Dragon Plate
Plate of insulation
Boots of Nimblness
Masked bandana
Nightmare helm (this one has recently basically lost all value)
Minerva Helm
Lady of the Realm
Legion Helm
Magic shield
Magic sword
The Defender
Vulcan Edge
Night soul Helm
Almost all of the amulets aside from Ammy of Combat and Ammy of Death Magic protection
Almost all of the rings except for Endurance and Intel.
And many more. As you can see this is quite a large chunk of the armor/weapons in the loot table. Rare backpacks would be a part of this there could be a handful of rare backpacks implemented which would be awesome.
Please can some of the staff give this some attention and or look into this? It would make the game better and more fun - it would bring back the enjoyment of finding these items, Please feel free to add anything I missed.
I haven't even found half of that yet. The only people complaining are usually the power levelers who get to 1k really fast and stand around bored. Yes, they're mostly mundane items, often just used for townie clothes. But not every piece of loot should be a major thing. I do think some of it could be made better. More colors and patterns and maybe a few more added bonuses so some of it isn't totally junk. Some of it is very useful for low levels, though.
For the record, I'm a solo aiew at level 400 and most of this, including nmh, is shop food.
Magic shield is hardly a useless item, but the rest of the list.. Well, yeah.. They're mundane and aren't supposed to be incredibly rare and or powerful. They're common items that mostly exist to help out new players, on release day I'd wager a bunch of people would've killed for PoI and BoD on their warriors. The issue is not that items like that are particularly weak, it's just that now there is better things available like the familiar & pro gear.
Even if those mundane items were given stats, they're supposed to be intentionally weaker than what's available - which is why they made your list - so EVEN if they reworked them all to give them "meh" stats, they'd STILL be shopfood because everyone would want the better items anyway.
It's like arguing that Tier 1 items are now worthless because Tier 2 items have come out.. Well.. Yeah, that's how progression goes, even if Tier 1 items had stats, they'd still be worse than Tier 2 so they'd be shopfood, just as Tier 2 would become shopfood (or at least significantly less valuable) if Tier 3 items came out.
I agree with Zewpi. But I do want to point something out. What's really happening is, right now, we have a smaller player base since this is a new server and we just came back. So what you're seeing is, too many people are power leveling and running caves like crazy. So you're seeing way too many people get too many items at once. So it seems like there's an over abundance of all this going on. But if we had ten times the player base, then it would be spread out more evenly. I think you kind of need to give that alittle time.
Some of the items are townie items, some are newbie items. BoN, BoD, Magic Shield, are really good newbie low level gear. Mundane helmets are good townie items and fun for n00bs. Just because you can't make a fortune in gold off them doesn't make them useless. Not everything needs to do something, nor should everything be able to be sold for millions.
Give the Realm team time to make changes and add things. We just got this new server and everyone expects them to revamp twenty year old code in a day. It doesn't work that way. They need time. You will see changes, you will see new things added, but it will be over the course of the year. Each month, you will see new updates. Give them time to work stuff out.
The whole point of me posting was to show that "Mundane" helms take up a lot of the loot table and that we need more rare varieties.
I haven't even found half of that yet. The only people complaining are usually the power levelers who get to 1k really fast and stand around bored. Yes, they're mostly mundane items, often just used for townie clothes. But not every piece of loot should be a major thing. I do think some of it could be made better. More colors and patterns and maybe a few more added bonuses so some of it isn't totally junk. Some of it is very useful for low levels, though.
The whole point of me posting was to show that "Mundane" helms take up a lot of the loot table and that we need more rare varieties. Also I am not a powerleveler.
The whole point of me posting was to show that "Mundane" helms take up a lot of the loot table and that we need more rare varieties. Also I am not a powerleveler.
But then they wouldn't be "rare". The point of rare is that there aren't as many of them. If you're expecting more rare drops, that kills the whole thing.
But that is exactly what i mean : give some more items decent stats and tweak the drop rates. I dont expect a wrath to drop ever 5 minutes this is the whole reason behind my post. Too many mundane items or magic items that are not rare anymore. It needs to be fixed
Im not trying to argue with anyone im trying to make a valid suggestion that benefits everyone. There are too many mundane items not enough rare and useful ones with low drop rates.
Give it time. It's a new server. They will add more stuff and they will make things better. They've been trying to fix the client first. But as the year goes on, you will see them add new stuff as they update.
@Carrigon Ya you are totally right. I need to give it more time. I hope by then we have a ton more users.
