I’m just curious on everyone’s thoughts on heroic keys. It seems like I see less and less people are selling these keys since Master Gear has come out and there are less and less new players I have seen joining the game that would benefit from selling those keys. If heroic dungeons are subscription only, why are we forcing players to do dungeons that don’t require a subscription in order to play them? If I want to run Tulors all day so that I can not find a Cael Hide, I shouldn’t have to worry about running out of keys ;).
Agreed, heroic keys annoy the player base, they should do away with them altogether…nothing like wasting time in a low level dungeon just to get a heroic key.
I like the design intent of the keys: To create a market for newer players to get veteran player gold.
However, I agree, it's generally just an annoyance. I'd rather see maybe a combination of:
*Eliminate Keys
*Increase drop rates of PRO GEAR in the non-heroic
*Increase difficulty of the heroic
*Reduce or remove PRO GEAR from heroics (replace the key market with this for veteran players to salvage)
*Maybe increase rare drop rare slightly in heroics to balance higher difficulty and removal/reduction of PRO GEAR
how about let noble accounts do heroics w/o keys and let the free accounts use keys so they can enter them ( or make it 2 or even 5 keys to enter)
I like the design intent of the keys: To create a market for newer players to get veteran player gold.
However, I agree, it's generally just an annoyance. I'd rather see maybe a combination of:
*Eliminate Keys
*Increase drop rates of PRO GEAR in the non-heroic
*Increase difficulty of the heroic
*Reduce or remove PRO GEAR from heroics (replace the key market with this for veteran players to salvage)
*Maybe increase rare drop rare slightly in heroics to balance higher difficulty and removal/reduction of PRO GEAR
All of these ideas would be an improvement, although I wouldn’t want to make every dungeon harder to the point where people aren’t having a fun leveling experience.
how about let noble accounts do heroics w/o keys and let the free accounts use keys so they can enter them ( or make it 2 or even 5 keys to enter)
I really like this idea and maybe even not have keys drop every time or randomize the keys you find in the dungeons? The only people who would be buying these keys would be the veteran players who don’t have anything better to do, but will allow them to keep an interest in the game until more content comes out. I feel that I would keep more of my characters subbed if I could do any heroic at any point without having to worry about keys or staying unsubbed until I farm more keys.
I like the design intent of the keys: To create a market for newer players to get veteran player gold.
However, I agree, it's generally just an annoyance. I'd rather see maybe a combination of:
*Eliminate Keys
*Increase drop rates of PRO GEAR in the non-heroic
*Increase difficulty of the heroic
*Reduce or remove PRO GEAR from heroics (replace the key market with this for veteran players to salvage)
*Maybe increase rare drop rare slightly in heroics to balance higher difficulty and removal/reduction of PRO GEAR
All of these ideas would be an improvement, although I wouldn’t want to make every dungeon harder to the point where people aren’t having a fun leveling experience.
Yeah, more like incremental. Not like ToD. Also thinking next prestige level everyone has level 7 skills.
I like the idea of removing keys for paid subs and reducing the drop rate for them in regular modes. Would likely need some technical tweaks tho,l since what is to stop someone from having 1 sub that opens the door and then summons the F2P (either their own accounts or someone else). Could it be possible to make 2 entrances in the salt mine, 1 that opens to prestige and forbids f2p summoning and the other that opens via key?
Since I'm new again and don't feel comfortable in the heroic caves unless I have a hunting partner such as my friend or bro I wouldn't mind selling my keys I get from doing the normal caves. if anyone's interested then send me a mail. I'm at work though and won't be on until shortly before midnight PNW time. I live in Washington. (Seattle)
Bump. I know that the Heroic Barrack's Keys are fairly easy to get to but if anyone is interested I do believe I have like 15-25 of them sitting in a BP at home. Send me a mail or add me as a friend so you'll know when I get online.
